Everything meme

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Everything Meme. Have at me with Relationship, First Impressions, Hot or Not, Essay, Please Ramble About This At Me, Explain Your Thoughts on Their Thoughts, You Should Jump Me, App My Canon and whatever you want to ask for.

Especially "Please Ramble About This At Me", I love that one. XD

I play: Umeda, the Riku Replica, Heat, Jinana, the Collector Manikin, Sakubo, and Sahashi Minato.
I used to play: Phibrezo, Mayura, Haruka, Mello, Cho Hakkai 1, Kubota, Hibari, Alec i Amasa, Marluxia, Lexaeus, EVA.

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HEAT'S RELATIONSHIP WITH CIELO

Cielo is:
- Tribe
- Comrade
- Like a grown-up kid brother to him. The kind where they're grown-up so you can trust them to take care of themselves but at the same time they're TOTALLY AN IDIOT WHO CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES UGH and you're the only one allowed to tease them about it.

That said, there's of course MORE TO IT THAN THAT, in that... playing the games, Heat and Cielo don't seem THAT CLOSE TO EACH OTHER right, they aren't each other's choice of hang-out buddy. And you know Heat tried to beat him up when he was on death's door that one time when Sera got kidnapped. But except for that one time? Heat's pretty ... gentle with Cielo. For Heat. Take the attack in the administrative tower. He tried to set Argilla on fire, punched Gale into a glass wall, targetted Serph... and didn't do anything against Cielo. And his first instinct, when Gale snapped and went after Cielo? Was to put himself between Gale and Cielo.

I suspect that there's past-life stuff there. I don't know if O'Brien worked on Cielo at all or if Cielo was before his time/under a different physician. But if he was, then he failed to protect Cielo. If he wasn't, then Cielo is still someone who wasn't saved by the people who should be under his care -- something we see how important it is to him with baby Sera.

SO I WONDER IF THAT FEEDS INTO IT SOMETIME.

But Heat's still Heat, and so it gets fed through Grown-Up Kid Brother Tribe-Comrade thing instead.

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Yeah, their relationship is sometimes an interesting dichotomy of Heat taking care of Cielo and Heat beating up Cielo! I've always kind of wondered how the fact that Heat beat him up that one time did affect their relationship. I kind of figure that...in a weird kind of way, it made it easier for Cielo to handle Heat's eventual betrayal. I mean, he already knew that Sera was more important to Heat than him! It probably wasn't something he thought about much, but the fact that he'd already ingrained that on a fundamental level of "Heat could've well killed him tossing him around like that for failing to protect Sera" was still...part of what he knew going in.

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YEAH BASICALLY. I'd say he loves CIelo, in his own way -- not like he loves Sera or Serph, but he does love Cielo like a brother.

But when push comes to shove, he'd kill his own brother for her. Possibly even in a fit of rage in her pain was at all his fault. Heat doesn't like it, that he'd do that to Cielo (or any of the Embryon); it doesn't make him proud. But he'd do it anyway.

I think for any of the Embryon to have... got back together with him after the betrayal? Involved them acknowledging that. In camp, I mean. You know?

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Yeah, I think one of the reasons Cielo...really got over his anger with Heat pretty fast in camp was that he'd realized that back in the Junkyard. I don't think he could've expected Heat to ever attack Serph that way and I think he hadn't extended "Heat loves Sera more than me and would kill me if I let her die" to "Heat loves Sera more than the entirety of the Embryon including Serph and would kill him if he were a threat". But it's a much smaller step than "Heat's my comrade and would never hurt me deliberately"! And Serph had forgiven him so he didn't really have the right in his head to argue with that, because Serph's the leader and the one who was stabbed. He still loves Heat and still views him as a brother and doesn't really think about it unless he has to. But when he does, he doesn't have a lot of illusions about it.

...Actually, come to think of it, this ties a little into Cielo's opinion on Heat/Kuhn before Bat came in because he didn't really think that Kuhn has a chance of breaking into Heat's focus on Serph and Sera.

But hell, at least he loves Sera too. Admittedly, his love for Sera is about in line with his love for the rest of the Embryon, but it's not like Heat's ready to kill him for someone he doesn't view as a comrade! That would be a lot worse.

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Yeah, it makes sense. Heat doesn't like it about himself either and had to face it too, but there it is. It's really just kind of a fact at this point. He tries nto to think about it too much and hopes it'll never come up again.

...........What was Cielo's opinion on Heat/Kuhn? XD

YEAH NO SERIOUSLY. Heat'd feel pretty shitty about that, I tell you.

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It can be summed up like this! "What really?" "No seriously really? Why?" "Uh...okay I guess." "You know he's totally obsessed with Sera. And Serph too but Sera's...yeah" "I mean, I guess you could try, but..." "Ja, you're kinda screwed." "...well dat was weird."

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HAHAHAHAHA. Yeah basically. Heat was like "Dude we cool but I got enough romantic headfuckery in my life right now."

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Also I think there was some "...I don't get why you're having issues with liking a guy" in there come to think of it!

So what would Heat do if Madame came into camp? On a completely random note!

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FREAK THE FUCK OUT.